Setting it Low
November 24, 2007 by scrubone
The standard certainly sets a low standard. I popped over there today.
As David Farrar has noted, the protest march was joined by a small group of activists in John Key and Mr Burns masks chanting things like “What is it that we support? John Key’s election rort!”,
Except you can only rort an election if you win - which Labour did. The left have balls of brass the way they keep this line up, being the ones who actually did the rorting. Then there’s the fact that John Key wasn’t even leader at the last election.
“Elections, money, power, cash - Bring back Don Brash!”
But we still have Helen…
and my favourite, “2, 4, 6, 11 - We support the Exclusive Brethren!”.
Here’s the thing - this one is true!
- As I and David have pointed out, the new laws will not stop the EBs from running a campaign just as large as their last one.
- There is also the fact that the campaign helped Labour, not National.
- Now, when you consider that Labour is using the Exclusive Brethren to clam down on all sorts of things except the Exclusive Brethren, you start to see where the real agenda is.
Apparently all these folks are against anonymous donations. That’s why they’re in disguise I suppose. I note the “end the arrogance” poster in the pic. I guess the guy who posted this pic didn’t get the irony that this whole post might just be one big demonstration of said arrogance.
They have a nice overhead pic of the protest. Looks like about 20x more than the daily “we hate capitalism” protest. I guess they do have something to crow about - they’ve now had a grand total of 10 people turn up to support the bill!
2200 Anti.
10 Pro.
Yea, good effort guys.
There is also the fact that the campaign helped Labour, not National.
Yeah but only after the Exclusive brethren were exposed and New Zealanders realised just how involved big money was in the election , and people became disgusted specially that national would be involved in this type of scam.
If it hadnt been exposed it would have helped National .
Yes there was 2200 anti`s and only 10 pro you say , so what ? .
Most people are just happy something is being done to atleast try to stop the chances of the rich having a unfair advantage in buying elections . Something National wasnt botherd with as its their tactic and probably the only chance they have on winning .
Why would happy New Zealanders bother to march against 2200 windgers , what for ? when the action they want is being taken !?? .
If The few windgers looked like they had a chance to be able to stop some action being taken , then there would be a need for the pro`s to get marching !!.
But thankfully most people can see that these types of big money boys campaigns , specially when entered into with deceit by so called Christians is just disgusting . And this public disgust is not only happening in New Zealand its also taking place in Australia .
“Most people are just happy something is being done to atleast try to stop the chances of the rich having a unfair advantage in buying elections.”
If you believe that the country is divided into “rich” and “poor”, you need help. If you think the extreme left should have the rules written to favour them, then you don’t believe in true democracy and probably never have.
The reality is your attitude is pervasive throughout the left - when the rules don’t suit, you throw them to once side.
Most people know full well that a group being able to come up with $60,000 isn’t a pack of rich bastards - the unions spent a lot more than that, but I don’ t see anyone complaining about it, especially on the left.
“Most people are just happy…
Why would happy New Zealanders bother to march against 2200 windgers , what for ?”
Yea, they were all right activists. Never mind all those media reports that said otherwise - the PM said it, so it must be true.
If you believe that the country is divided into “rich” and “poor”, you need help.
Sorry about that mistake Scrub , i should have added as well as Lovely Christians who get peeved off when it becomes illegal to unfairly and deceitfully campaign for elections and to commit violence against their kids .
No wonder faith is on the decline , this Jesus they follow must have been a nasty guy .You can tell by his flock , as they are supposed to be how he was . He must have been a right wing National .
Thank God im not religious !!.
With the way Christians are , i wonder if this God might not be thankful im not religious too .
Now, when you consider that Labour is using the Exclusive Brethren to clam down on all sorts of things except the Exclusive Brethren, you start to see where the real agenda is.
Hopefully these exclusive brethren get clammed down yet . I agree Labour hasnt gone far enough . Hopefully in the future any religious groups or people who abuse people get brought to justice .Religion should not overule justice and human rights .
1. “unfairly and deceitfully” - except the EB pamphlets were actually largely truthful. True, they didn’t give correct contact details - that is not “becoming” illegal, it already was. No law change needed.
2. No Christians are campaigning to commit violence against kids. They are campaigning for the right to use reasonable physical punishments. By definition, this is not violent. It seems the alternative to this is a “big brother” society against parents - yet another left-wing policy reversed when it suits them.
3. Faith is not on the decline. You’ll find that faithful churches are growing quite nicely thank you very much. It’s the liberal churches that are shrinking - the ones who gave up faithfulness years ago.
4. I think you’re wrong about both Christians and the National party. I can only point you at the numerous assaults committed by the opposing benches in recent years, including both members from Dunedin. Then there’s the stealing, and why not mention the EFB while where’re at it. As for atheistic communism’s body count…
Yes, Christianity isn’t perfect (oh, marks off for not mentioning the Crusades) - Christianity is specifically built on the basis that people are rotters - but the alternatives have a ways to go.
5. I suggest you find someone else to find to thank that you are not religions.
6. I can tell you now that God doesn’t want you to be religious, and neither do I. How about a personal relationship instead?
7. Nice to see you confirm you’re so much on the side of justice, it’s quite rare on the left these days.