Ok, I haven’t been following all the talk on this NIWA scandal so if someone’s answered this do tell.
But here’s something I noticed.
Here’s the raw data for Wellington temperatures.
Here’s the adjusted temps. (I’m not that interested Thorndon, which is what everyone’s going on about.)
What I noticed is that the trend line in Kelburn and Airport data doesn’t appear change with adjustment – it’s going up with or without.
So that part of the data is basically the same.
So how does this…
Become this…
through such adjustments?
Yes, I’m not a scientist – Climate* or Soil**, so I’m not in the two groups that are allowed to speak authoritatively on the topic. But that doesn’t mean I don’t have questions.
In case I haven’t made the point clearly enough, I’m not that concerned about the science in any case – there’s probably a good explanation for this one. It’s the politics that worries me.
*That is, a climate scientist who agrees with global warming – from what I read there are climate scientists who are anti-science which is really mind bending. Still trying to work that out.
**Not sure whether this is just retired ones or not. Again, still trying to work out how a retired soil scientist can dismiss critics on the basis they aren’t climate scientists.
Comments on: "NIWA Data – An observation from another non-scientist" (7)
“Yes, I’m not a scientist – Climate* or Soil**”
RAFLOL!!!! Hysterical!!!
A simple explanation: A soil scientist sees dirt where ever they look, thus criticisms are treated with skepticism.
There’s dirt then there’s dirt.
I noticed some responses to this issue on MacDoctor. What interested me were several obvious logical fallacies (ad hominem, tu quoque) being made by scientists who then said that people should not comment on climate science unless they were informed on all the relevant climate science. Fair enough. In the same vein soil scientists (and their mates) should avoid trying to pass fallacies off as good arguments. Perhaps they should not speak until they have boned up on the rules of logic.
You may want to edit your oblique soil science references to include Gareth Renowden – though to be fair his area of expertise is truffle science.
The Royal Society of NZ describe him as “a writer, photographer and truffle grower”
http://www.royalsociety.org.nz/Site/news/comps_prizes/BookPrize/renowdenbio.aspx
Funny, I don’t recall Ken banging him for speaking outside his field…
Maybe he has a wireless connection that lets him blog from his paddock?
I must confess that Gareth’s blog is one I give a miss, once he and Ian have finally finished their feud I’ll congratulate the winner, or Ian as the case may be
Breaking news: there’s a surge of scientists taking massaging class all around the world. Apparently there’s new world wide belief now that massaging is a very important qualification that big investors and government look for when granting research funding.
Note: the surge can be proven by one of the graph you have here
See the surge? That’s the one
Ok ok that’s pretty low … but I couldn’t help it! Sorry scientists … please it’s a joke ok! Scientists are cool!