Oh, this is great:
Her calm reply:
It’s the best democracy in the world. It’s the best place to be.
On CBC, this constitutes blasphemy. Lewis was becoming visibly unhinged as he sputtered:
Tell that to the people who believe there have been a couple of stolen elections. That the democracy is completely broken.
When she countered his allegations that the USA is a plutocracy by observing that you can arrive penniless in America and become fabulously wealthy, Lewis completely lost his composure:
Is there a school where they teach you these American clichés? Is it part of your application process that you have to… I’m sorry… I’m so upset that I’m losing my cards here. I can’t believe you just said that.
The time had come for Hirsi Ali to stop pretending Lewis was mature enough to conduct a rational conversation, and to put him in his place:
I’ve lived in countries that had no democracy, that had no Founding Fathers […] so I don’t find myself in the same luxury as you. You grew up in freedom, and you can spit on freedom, because you don’t know what it is not to have freedom.
A sobering thought if ever there was one.