The more I think about this weeks debarkle, the more I question what Copeland et al were trying to do with Destiny on board. I can think of some excellent reasons to ignore them.
- Destiny do not control any votes outside their church, and perhaps not even those. Destiny only got .6% of the vote in the last election, and only got those because Christian Heritage’s problems. I know people who were talking about voting for them, but with a proper Christian party setup would not even think of it.
- The “CHP Effect”. It was only after United Future arrived in parliament that the media realised that horrid Christians (who pray!) had actually infiltrated parliament and started their path to reinstating which burnings. I believe that UF did well because CHP took much of the flack, providing a party that could be pointed at as the “real radicals”. Destiny could have provided this function for the new party.
- Brian Tamaki has fewer faults than the public believe (he’s not wealthy from the church) but he has some massive ones none the less. He is a control freak, and his foray into politics has never been about the greater good. He was always going to dominate the scene and throw his weight around.
- Having Lewis as party co-leader is a joke, as he only has experience in a single electoral cycle with no MPs. Far better to get one of the old UF MPs to do the job, there are plenty to choose from.
Do I need any more reasons?
Something should go here, maybe later. 
Reasons eh?
“Do I need any more reasons?”
How about doing some more research for a start!
Destiny Church were registering at 5% in the polls just before they de-registered.
Brian Tamaki isn’t a control freak – he just knows order, respect and honour – and Destiny Church gives him that. go read the bible, its theology, not democracy!
I like this website, and it seems most of you – including scrubone – know and understand what yall’ are talking about.
BUT
Instead of questioning the media – as most bloggers on this site seem to do – you accept and agree with what is being said in the media (This is probably a large generalisation, but go with it for now) regarding Destiny Church. Believe me (ask me why you should believe me after i’ve had a rant), the media has twisted, and screwed up every piece of coverage on Destiny Church so far.
Please!! Someone do some research! NZONE seems to have made a start – let the rest follow!
For example – Enough is Enough march – the coverage on that march consisted of showing the Haka group with raised fists, and lots of gays & lesbians getting plenty of say in the matter. Whatever! They even mentioned that there had to be at least 2000-4000 people at the march, all from “Destiny Church”. Where as the truth revolved around at least 10,000 marchers, wearing different coloured clothing and many from different churches. this may be a bad example, but I hope you are starting to get the picture.
Destiny Church has plenty of good, and a lot of bad……..media coverage!
“Destiny Church were registering at 5% in the polls just before they de-registered.”
But as I said, with a christian party, that entire vote would transfer. But then, I simply don’t believe this figure – which poll does this come from?
“Brian Tamaki isn’t a control freak – he just knows order, respect and honour – and Destiny Church gives him that. go read the bible, its theology, not democracy!”
Nope. Placing all authority in the church in the hands of one man is wrong, both biblically and from what we’ve learnt in history.
“Instead of questioning the media – as most bloggers on this site seem to do – you accept and agree with what is being said in the media”
Actually, I don’t. I know full well what happened on that march, and what happens in Destiny churches through first hand accounts.
The destiny church has done some very good thing in some areas of society. Their media image is poor, and much of that is not deserved.
But for one man to control an entire church, then start his own personal political party… no, that’s not right. Even removing all the crap coverage that the party and church have had, I still don’t support them.
But that’s not really my point anyway. My point is that the minds of people who might have voted for their ideas are poisioned by the media. Due to this, they were never going to succeed – even CHP (which wasn’t based on a single denomination) struggled throughout it’s history.
So I *don’t* agree with the media, but the media have created a reality we have to live with.
But thanks for your comments.